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wdent
Senior Member
USA
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 Posted - 01/20/2004 : 08:39:40 AM
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One of the nicest things that has been done for Jaco's legacy in my view, was the penning of "Mr. Patorius" (an apt and appropriate title showing the grace and simple respect of the author, Marcus Miller). Not only is it beautiful, but Mr. Miller then got arguably, the greatest musician of this century to perform it on record. Not only is his (Miles') performance superb, he went on to perform it many times, live. Again, many of these performances were recorded and released. Talk about a compliment and an honor! Thank you Marcus Miller!
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jacogroepie
Junior Member
Netherlands Antilles
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Posted - 01/20/2004 : 10:03:36 AM
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Hello Wdent,
By the way, Ingrid Pastorius tells a bit about Jaco and Miles meeting up on her site, i't's a very interesting read! Please check: http://www.jacop.net/faq.html
Greetings,
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wdent
Senior Member
USA
3979 Posts |
Posted - 01/20/2004 : 12:12:30 PM
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Thanks Jeroen! I had never heard that account before. It is even more valid (believable) because Ingrid was there also. If only she would share that of her memory regarding that visit>>>>>>>>(if only a fly on the wall were I!!!)
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Bassmickeyd
Junior Member
Canada
240 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2004 : 7:44:16 PM
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"Any suggestion as to the best Miles Davis albums" ????? ......... My answer to that question is "D", all of the above. .... Why? Because they're all Miles Davis records. They're all the best. Miles(his record companys) put out over 100 recordings before he died. He recorded for near 50 years. Each of his recordings a a classic view of what was happening at that period in time. Miles had a way of putting musicians together that were able to capture that. His constant changing/evolving left most people behind and in most cases confused. That's why someones ask's; what's the best. It's like asking, "what's your favorite year of living". .... Honestly there is no answer. If anything personal preference, but "for what that's worth". Don't ask. Experence. I'm slightly biased, because, I own over 50 Miles Davis albums. And before I die I'd like them all. And I'll never have a favorite. I was about 13/14 when I heard my first Miles record. I was in awe. For the next six months I kept playing and flipping the record over till I wore it out. I couldn't believe music/musicians could sound/express/feel that much. It's what made me want to be a musician. Not to imitate, but to experence. The only other modern day musician to have capture the moment in music in history is David Bowie. A man whose been recording for near 40 years. And is still searching.
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Jazzman
New Member
Sweden
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Posted - 02/04/2004 : 11:40:45 AM
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I recomend "DOO-BOP" with songs like "Mystery" and "High speed chase"- They're excellent and different. A really cool concept.
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stoogey
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 02/05/2004 : 8:34:24 PM
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There is no question that when you deal with Miles, you need the entire collection. There is no quintessential Miles release, because the man changed music so many times, and there are so many tremendous releases within each era he changed. Some of the best however are:
Birth of The Cool
MilesTones
Walkin
Kind of Blue (of course)
Miles in The Round
Sketches of Spain
Live at Carnegie Hall 1961
Bitches Brew
In A Silent Way
Big Fun
JACK JOHNSON (my personal fave of all time)
Live-Evil
Live at Fillmore East
Live at Fillmore West
Live at the Isle of Wight (extremely hard to find, I've only been able to find "Call it Anything", it's unbelievable)
By the 80's, in my opinion, he kinda petered out, but then left us a great last record in Doo-Bop.
Try those, you'll like it....
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mdcs
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Mowgli
Starting Member
18 Posts |
Posted - 04/01/2004 : 11:47:28 AM
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Hope you guys don't mind a late response to this interesting subjekt.
I also wonder why miles and Jaco never hooked up, I'm shure Jaco wouldn't
have objected, but maybe he was too 'strong' (headed)a player for miles?
I love everything with miles from-45 to-83.I'm surprised no one semm to like his first three 'comeback' records:Man with the horn ,Wewant miles and Starpeople.They are up there with his finest-not least because of the rytmsection M.Miller and above all Alex Foster -one of he baddest 'backbeat 'oriented jazzdrummer i know of! Check them out Wdent! |
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Mowgli
Starting Member
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Posted - 04/02/2004 : 03:16:30 AM
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| Clarification: By "too strong headed" I mean 'coloful' (in a very positive sense)and too dominating (in a maybe less positive sense,like Metheny suggests in thePOJ interwiev) and when I talk about Alex Foster I mean Al Foster,no one else. |
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Mowgli
Starting Member
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Posted - 04/02/2004 : 06:51:28 AM
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| Clarification: By "too strong headed" I mean 'coloful' (in a very positive sense)and too dominating (in a maybe less positive sense,like Metheny suggests in thePOJ interwiev) and when I talk about Alex Foster I mean Al Foster,no one else. |
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Rocha
Starting Member
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Posted - 04/21/2004 : 04:47:54 AM
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I just don`t see why Miles` "electric years" were hardly cited.
Listen to WATER BABIES (not exactly electric but transitional), then ON THE CORNER ,then GET UP WITH IT. I`m not going to list names of music-masters involved in these albums, keep it as a surprise...(too many to list,actually)
Jazz Masterpieces,nothing else to say. |
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Mowgli
Starting Member
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Posted - 04/21/2004 : 07:12:43 AM
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Totally agree,Rocha!
Maybe I could live without the albums from 1970 with Corea, but hey thats me. |
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sam
Starting Member
Australia
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Posted - 04/21/2004 : 08:01:48 AM
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| if you check out marcus millers page and look under the faq's, it does mention something about what miles thought of jaco (not the other way round sorry) and that was that miles never really spoke of him, miller says that upon telling miles of the title of mr Pastorius, he quickly added that he had another name for the song if miles didn't like it, but miles said thats cool (note- not word for word) sorry if that has nothing to do with your original question wdent. hope its helpful. |
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bassteacher
Starting Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/22/2004 : 7:11:32 PM
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Two strong suggestions in Cannonball Adderley's "Something Else" and Miles's own "Birth of the Cool".
Another very good (but less well-known) Miles album (from the 50s) is "Blue Haze". |
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hemp
Starting Member
France
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Posted - 10/27/2004 : 06:20:44 AM
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I think jaco wouldn t played with miles...Jaco was kind of musician who liked to play many notes...look at michael johnson, he could played the same theme during 30 mn...I can t imagine jaco doing this...so frustated.
The best record(s) of miles...a hard question and a difficult answer.
It depends of lot of stuff...I just want to say something...I m tired of people who say "kind of blue" is the best jazz record...It s not true...the best of miles...wrong...This is the easiet answer of people who think they know something about jazz...but many never listen to others miles s records.
There are four records who show the evolution of miles's music.
"miles smiles"..."miles in the sky"..."big fun" and "get up with it"...If you listen it you understand miles music... |
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