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Miked1687
Starting Member
USA
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 Posted - 11/09/2003 : 9:27:17 PM
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Hey guys, I'm starting a fretless bass with warmoth parts very soon, and I fell to the temptation of the Jaco modified fretless neck. The neck will already be fretless, so de-fretting isn't my problem, my question is in what epoxy should I use? I looked for the Petite's Polypoxy, but to no success. What did any of you guys/gals use if you've done this before, and how'd it work? I plan on taking it to a professional to have coated and such, but I'll need to have everything ready for him to use. Thanks.
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rodrigo
Junior Member
Peru
142 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2003 : 11:18:19 PM
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with mine i used marine epoxy...  |
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EddieG
Senior Member
United Kingdom
690 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2003 : 07:34:23 AM
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I don't live in the US, so I'm not sure if this is true but I've read in numerous places that Petite's Poly-Poxy doesn't exist any more.There's a guy in the US who does epoxying on fretless necks, and does an amazing job of it too. Check out his website:
http://www.woodwiz.com/guitarlab/epoxy.html
It'd be well worth having this guy do it for you. |
Edited by - EddieG on 11/10/2003 07:36:54 AM |
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Miked1687
Starting Member
USA
14 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2003 : 11:17:08 PM
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| Thank you so much Eddie! I never would have found that, and I live in new york state too, so it shouldn't take too long to send it to him. wow, this is great. I'm building a jazz bass with all warmoth parts, which I highly recommend, they are top of the line. Well thanks again. |
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EddieG
Senior Member
United Kingdom
690 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 09:39:08 AM
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Harris is a nice guy, I've corresponded with him by email, and the quality of his work is simply outstanding. And you're right about Warmoth parts, I'm planning to buy a AAA birdseye maple neck from them in the New Year.
Be sure to let us know how your bass turns out.
"Everybody silencio, por favor. You dig?" - Jaco Pastorius |
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Jaco Fan
Junior Member
USA
338 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2003 : 8:47:18 PM
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Thanks, Eddie G!
I just signed on to this forum and was looking for what epoxy to use on my Japanese Jazz Fretless.
This guy looks great. I'm going to check him out.
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Double G
Starting Member
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Posted - 11/16/2003 : 11:16:37 PM
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| If I were you I would get a fretless ebony neck so you won't have to worry about all that stuff. The roundwounds won't eat the neck like they do on unfinished rosewood. I built my bass with warmoth parts about three years ago. My bass gets lots of playing time and I can't see any grove or wearing from the strings on the fingerboard. |
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lejarretnoir
Starting Member
Canada
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Posted - 11/17/2003 : 9:51:47 PM
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| Ebony is great, but if you want that bright Jaco sound you'll need the epoxied board. The epoxy is very hard with no wood sound to it. I've had an ebony board too and can tell the difference. Love both very much. |
Edited by - lejarretnoir on 11/17/2003 10:46:53 PM |
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Double G
Starting Member
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Posted - 11/17/2003 : 11:55:49 PM
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| I Know a guy who plays a Zon Bass, he told told the neck/fingerboard was made from graphite. The Bass has nice tone, kind of bright. I always wondered if an epoxied neck has a similar tone to the graphite. I have never seen a graphite replacement neck, and I can't afford a Zon. |
Edited by - Double G on 11/17/2003 11:56:44 PM |
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xpad
Starting Member
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Posted - 11/19/2003 : 8:44:44 PM
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| I have a Jaco fender bass epoxied by Harris Thor. All Jaco fans should go check his site AND have him epoxy at least one bass of yours, definitly. What you will experience is heaven is your hands. People at Fender were mad because they found him only after they put out their Jaco basses. It seems they were not so pleased with Kevin Kaufmann's supervisory work when they saw Harris's expertise. |
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Jaco Fan
Junior Member
USA
338 Posts |
Posted - 11/19/2003 : 10:22:48 PM
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My Japanese Jazz Fretless is going out to him next week. I'll let you know, but I'm expecting great things.
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Jaco Fan
Junior Member
USA
338 Posts |
Posted - 01/24/2004 : 12:05:09 AM
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...And I got great things. Seriously, the WoodWiz is a WIZ at fretless necks -- and other things gtr and bass as far as I can tell.
Absolutely, xpad, a bass neck done by HG Thor is a MUST.
The tone didn't really get brighter, but got more intense. You can slip and slide all you want and the string keeps on vibrating. The notes just seem to jump up to my fingers now. Amazing.
Still feels like a wood neck without the "robot '80's" sound of some of the composite instruments (before the flames start, not ALL composite instruments or necks sound like "Mr. Roboto"!)
Played it at a rehearsal with a new band and I got comments on my incredible tone from everybody, including the sound guy. (This is a contemporary Christian group -- normally you don't hear fretless in this kind of music!) Funny thing is that it's a Japanese Fender Jazz, totally passive and I was DI'd into the board (through a very long snake) right off my pickups (both full on)! No processing, compression, eq, etc. It just sounds great!
And the setup job he did was the best I've ever had. I'm totally spoiled by this bass now.
He'll be getting other instruments from me for sure.
You could do it yourself, but I can't imagine getting anywhere near the quality of what he can do. (Nor will he tell what the epoxy is -- and he shouldn't!) And he was very reasonable in price and the delivery was as he quoted.
The finish is like a mirror, perfectly flat. The rosewood board is now darker, like when you apply varnish or other finish to a wood. A much richer and deeper color.
Just do it, treat yourself to a beautiful neck and you'll be glad you didn't try it yourself!
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Eddiemunster
Junior Member
USA
130 Posts |
Posted - 01/24/2004 : 06:28:20 AM
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| Polyurethane. 3 coats I used on my old Ibanez. Just be careful to not get a lot of drool on the backside of the neck like I stupidly did!!! |
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EddieG
Senior Member
United Kingdom
690 Posts |
Posted - 01/24/2004 : 10:26:12 AM
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Xpad, are you Xavier Padilla (Gypsy Kings bassist)?
If so, your playing rocks man. I haven't heard "Tools For Tales" yet, but by all accounts its a great album.
"Everybody silencio, por favor. You dig?" - Jaco Pastorius |
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AnimaSola
Starting Member
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Posted - 08/19/2004 : 4:54:34 PM
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| Just so you guys know... they still do make Poly Poxy. The company's name is Pettit Marine Paints, not Petite. It's really hard to find, but they do make it. I recommend going to Pettit's website, http://www.petitprod.com, and asking them where to buy it or if you could buy it direct. Good luck guys. |
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Jbassist24
Senior Member
USA
912 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2004 : 6:43:41 PM
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I got this stuff called Loc Tite-Quick Set Epoxy. It worked well. I dumped some out and mixed it up then I put in on my finger board and used a paint brush spread it around evenly. Worked nicely.
my signature is better than yours
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