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PJ66_4July86
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Sweden
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Posted - 06/18/2008 :  12:21:53 PM  Show Profile
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RMP
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USA
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Posted - 06/18/2008 :  12:38:33 PM  Show Profile
That's right. Just last night. The Celtics are the winningest team in NBA history -- 17 NBA Championships. (They went from "worst to first" this last season, too.) As a Philly fan, it's not something that makes me all that happy -- 'cause we all hate the Celtics. (The rich get richer and the poor get poorer, as they say.)

But as every American sports fan knows, it ain't easy being a Philly fan.

Havlicek played for the Celtics from 1962 to 1978 -- elected to the Basketball Hall of Fame in 1984. He was a great one.
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PJ66_4July86
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Posted - 06/18/2008 :  9:55:20 PM  Show Profile
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PJ66_4July86
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Posted - 06/22/2008 :  11:25:22 AM  Show Profile
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first_bass_magazine
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Posted - 07/04/2008 :  08:14:51 AM  Show Profile
Good morning Drens (PJ 66) and to all a Happy Fourth of July.
I do not publish anymore. 1990 yearbook was the last issue.
It has been 22 years since "The Kid", Paula, Drens, and myself took The Kid's bass down to Jaco for the July 4 Jam Session. I remember much of what you wrote in this thread and know it to be accurate. Also. It was indeed Bleeker and Sullivan. I was happy to have that opportunity, and it is a day I will always remember. Maybe Drens, it's like you said in that interview you are conducting with me at;

http://pub40.bravenet.com/forum/3399669569/show/728553

Jaco was special in many ways and that could be why he is unforgettable, as that day.
I recall the Mets were "high hopes" that year. I figured Jaco would chime in for a New York team, or at least the Yankees. So when I went to print with MY 1988 Bass Player Magazine I had no problem changing to FIRST BASS and because Guitar Player couldn't go through with a proverbial handshake deal... well that's why Winter 1988 was Green and White (with the normal black ink for type) -- not to mention that blue and orange would have cost a fortune . It was my biggest circulation of anything I published and first not to contain Bass Mint store catalog info.



Bassball's a great American sport.


Happy Fourth of July, Jaco. It's amazing to see that you remain the shot heard round the world. There are many who ascribe to the technical prowess of others and advancements in playing. All that aside Jaco, you were the one who did it and put the bass on top and made the foundataion. I hope that you saw that when the first issue announcing in the biggest way ever that there would be an official Bass Players Hall of Fame, that the whole board of directors voted you deserved it, including and not limited to:

Milt Hinton
Stanley Clarke
Ray Brown
Eddie Gomez
Rufus Reid
John Entwistle
Bill Sheehan

and many more...

You inspired me. I built a seven string bass in 1987 in hopes to get a bass lesson in Bass-7 All I can hope is that there's gotta be some pretty good endless Jam sessions there and all the time in the universe to do it. I kept the promise of the poem. I kept silent for 21 years not revealing what you did for the Kid in that it was you who gave him that bass. The inspiration helped heal his hands. How did you know? How did you find out that was his dream bass?

If it weren't for you I would have not even bothered publishing anymore there would have been no Bass Players Hall of Fame, but like I said on MTV during Grammy week 1990 about the Bass Players Hall of Fame:

"It's not about being a household word. Being famous is being famous in both this world and that world." - BASS MINT

As far as I am concerned you were in both worlds since 1972 when I heard of you in my Basement band rehearsal room from my guitarist.
I even pulled my frets.


Well I hope I did the right thing. I did the best I could.

My best sincere wishes to your family and friends. Keep the peace Jaco.

Publisher the original "Bass Player" and "First Bass"
First Bass International (FBI) Magazine
Organizer-Bass Players Hall of Fame


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PJ66_4July86
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Sweden
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Posted - 07/12/2008 :  04:58:25 AM  Show Profile
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Bassmickeyd
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Canada
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Posted - 07/12/2008 :  4:32:15 PM  Show Profile  Visit Bassmickeyd's Homepage
DWENT Said:
"as I recollect, the 4th Street subway station comes up right there on that corner as well, so I ask myself, wouldn't that be 4th Street not 3rd? but for some reason, 3rd Street keeps poppin' up in my head."

You're right in both ways. .... They are called the $th. Street Basketball Courts and the entrance is on 3rd. street at 6th. or Avenue Of the Americas. I guess since the Subway station is called 4th. Street the basketball court followed suite.
BM

Ron MacDonald
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PJ66_4July86
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Posted - 07/12/2008 :  6:52:23 PM  Show Profile
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first_bass_magazine
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Posted - 07/13/2008 :  12:14:06 AM  Show Profile
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[i]Originally posted by PJ66_4July86[/i]
[br]Is there anything else to add? Recollections of July 4 86 from your perspective and memory? Anyone else who may have been there may be able to help put another angle on it.... ...the mysterious woman with the black hair.

<font class="body_xsmall">Säregna människor träffar man lite varstans. Strange persons have a way of appearing anywhere.</font>



Acually, I said my piece. I know who the woman was and what was said, but let's leave her out of it. The story does not need verification. I am the verification. Jaco appeared that he wanted the bass back he was holding onto it. He was "playing" the kid to see if he really wanted that bass. And he kind of did want to keep it. It was a nice bass and had a great tone. He was obviously aware that he gave it up. He was a bit manic but he was shrewd. Hey man -- you don't sell a ton of high end Bass Gear before it became a fashion if you don't know human nature and peoples clicks. Was Jaco out of his wits? Yea, isn't everybody when they aren't pretending ..yea. He was a genius, gifted, progressive, maybe he could see things in people most people don't and he was sensitive. That would be tough, eh?

Boy, that screen play might turn out to be a hand warmer... :)

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PJ66_4July86
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Posted - 07/13/2008 :  08:40:00 AM  Show Profile
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first_bass_magazine
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Posted - 07/14/2008 :  07:56:39 AM  Show Profile
This is too weird. And maybe he's just similar looking... very similar... Listen, before I get into the July 4 story, I just realized that the guy who is doing a movie about Jaco looks alot like one of the guys who delivered the bass to me at the shop in Hackensack.
I looked at his site at some of the photos, especially http://www.billyyeager.com/press.htm (just put a 5'oclock shadow on him and that's what the taller one looked like). And, if that is not one of the guys who brought in Jaco's bass for the kid then Jaco had a tendency to choose friends that looked alike.

Billy Yeager "could" be one of the guys who brought the bass over to New Jersey by bus.
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wdent
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USA
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Posted - 07/16/2008 :  08:08:56 AM  Show Profile
I rarely read these posts and threads these days with a discerning eye. I just don't have the psychic energy to put into being judgmental or critical over most things re: the JP website. However, I feel it is important to point out a couple of things. These are things I just didn't read thoroughly enough the first time around and that I spent a little time since, re-reading to new awareness.

First: after re-reading the chapter to which you refer, I discovered that Bill Milkowski never states in the book that Jaco played The Star Spangled Banner on that July 4th. Indeed Bill reports the whole of that July 4th as a guy who was late on the scene and his accounts are those of a guy who is simply reporting what he saw upon arriving AFTER the events about which you speak, took place. He asks a guy who appeared to be looking over Jaco (Angel), what happened and any accounts of the day reported in the book, at that point, are those of Angel's as told to Bill. Bill refrains from interjecting his own opinions or accounts because he clearly states in the book that he wasn't there. He does give an accounting of Jaco's amp and guitar being there but not in use at the time that Bill got there or thereafter on that day.

I just felt it is important to point out as the beginning of this thread puts things in Bill's mouth that just aren't there. Not that any of this is extremely important other than it is not nice to blame anyone for saying something or doing something that they didn't do.

Having said that, again, I appreciate hearing detailed accounts of things that DID happen when people are there to have witnessed them as it applies to Jaco's life. It was obviously an interesting life around which way too many inaccurate accounts have been purported as if Jaco's life needs any degree of fabrication in order to be interesting. Right?



Jaco: You know you've got that tape recorder on Duke Ellington's book!
Interviewer: Which book is that?
Jaco: The only one!
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wdent
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USA
3979 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2008 :  08:14:49 AM  Show Profile
P.S. again, I only point these things out because so much of what follows in this thread is based upon the opening FALSE statement of the thread......it's kind of like Roseanna Danna who after going on a verbal tirade is told by the anchorman of the news show on which she is, that the word about which she has just given a two minute bashing is different from the word on which she has been giving her opinion and she says....

"Never mind"

kinda like that.......


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PJ66_4July86
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Posted - 07/16/2008 :  10:32:52 AM  Show Profile
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PJ66_4July86
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Posted - 07/16/2008 :  10:52:38 AM  Show Profile
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